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SeaBird
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Location: Alexandrea, EGYPT
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| Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:11 pm Post subject: Drug-based Medicine or Alternative Natural Medicine? |
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GoodEvening EveryOne
Through CNN.com I entered a Link having a title that attracted me: Lowering the Cholestrol.
Also, How to control the Prostate gland enlargement.
Two Problems that old men like myself have to face in their End of Run cycle (borrowing our technical vocabulary when we describe an aging Catalyst)!
Here is what I got:
" The Remarkable Secret of Cilantro Chelation. On page 169 in Bottom Line's BALANCED HEALING, you'll find a simple cilantro recipe that's powerful medicine for lowering even the most stubborn cholesterol counts. This simple recipe is often ALL you need to control your cholesterol!
Quote: SeaBird's Comment: My favorite Coffeeshop at Carrefour city center is an Italian Caffe called: Cilantron
Is there any relation between that Cilantro Chelation and Cilantron Coffeeshop?!
The Herbal "Cocktail" That Slashes Cholesterol 75 Points Naturally! These fabulous five nutrients are clinically proven to lower cholesterol as much as 75 points if your count is around 250. No drugs. No prescriptions. Just remarkable results. Page 170
But Suppose These "Natural" Cures Don't Work?
No Problem! Then It's Time To Talk Prescription Drugs!
It's a simple fact: Not everyone can lower their cholesterol using only natural methods. So once we've exhausted all our drug-free cures, it's time to explore your prescription drug options!
That usually means taking statin drugs like Zocor® or Lipitor®. But I don't want you to rely on them alone. On page 171 in Bottom Line's BALANCED HEALING, I'll explain how you can combine your prescription drugs with natural supplements to get better results.
Just Beware Of The Almost Invisible Side Effects!
I'll also give you a heads-up on the subtle, almost invisible side effects you might experience with statin drugs—and what they mean. That way, you can spot trouble (and call your doctor) before it gets serious.
Beyond Statin Drugs...
NEW Choices Your Doctor Didn't Tell You About!
In the same section (page 171), you'll also discover more cholesterol-lowering solutions that often work wonders when all else fails. You get everything you need to know—including name brands!
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SeaBird's Comment:
Q#1 What is that Saw Palmetto ?! is it found in the Egyptian Markets? any Egyptian/Arabic name?
Q# 2 What is that European antidote?
Appreciate your help with info.
My Blood Cholestrol level is 255 jumping from 205 five months ago! I have doubts in the Lab result so I will have another test after I practice tighter food control and work harder in my running exercises.
I was told at least a month should pass to retake another test with significant improved results.
My Prostate gland enalrgement needs frequent ejaculation/masturbation according to my MD Doctors advice but this puts pressure on me;
1- religously not recommended
2- ethically doing it behind closed doors from DW is very unacceptable to me. I have always been for entire 20 yrs of happy marriage commited not to reach an orgasm except with DW. I just find it hard to change.
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nomad
Joined: 10 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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I dont like taking drugs at all unless i realy need to ,so for the Cholesterol it would have to be changing my eating habits .
For the prostate problem,it would have to be less work and more sex :D |
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kamar
Joined: 24 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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nomad wrote:
For the prostate problem,it would have to be less work and more sex :D
Looooooooooooooool :lol: :lol: :lol: |
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Explorer the eighth
Joined: 01 Oct 2005
Posts: 818
Location: England
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| Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:13 am Post subject: Re: Drug-based Medicine or Alternative Natural Medicine? |
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SeaBird wrote: GoodEvening EveryOne
My Prostate gland enalrgement needs frequent ejaculation/masturbation according to my MD Doctors advice but this puts pressure on me;
1- religously not recommended
2- ethically doing it behind closed doors from DW is very unacceptable to me. I have always been for entire 20 yrs of happy marriage commited not to reach an orgasm except with DW. I just find it hard to change.
Salam
Hello SeaBird. I feel uncomfortable saying anything about other people's marriages, but I need to ask a question. Why does your masturbation have to be solitary? Can DW be there too? You don't have to answer this question here. It's only something to consider.
Saw Palmetto is a herb. There is nothing wrong with my prostrate, but I buy the saw palmetto capsules from Holland and Barrett as a preventative measure. |
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nomad
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| Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:31 am Post subject: |
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| Is this not spamming EG . :D :D :D |
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SeaBird
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Location: Alexandrea, EGYPT
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| Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:16 am Post subject: reply on The Explorer the Great |
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GoodMorning The Great Explorer
I would love to know the name of that herb in Arabic.
The Alternative Medicine is tremendously growing business among the Egyptian society especially of course in the major cities. Dr Abdel Aal has become the TV celebrity hosted in most of the Sattelite TV channels with flood of questions by direct phone calls from everywhere in the Arab World. At Carrefour bookshop I noticed a neately printed book authored by him about the Alternative Medicine. It seems that I should buy it on purpose to look for that Saw Palmetto.
As Masturbation is concerned:
Speaking in general terms; women on approaching the 50 gate face a drastic hormonal change with preference towards asexual life style. So a career woman finds pleasure in satisfying her profesional ambition towards a challenging more senior position at her work place, more attention towards her kids/grandkids if she is not employed, more time in Churches/Mosques' related activities if she is religous, more indulgence in social/volunteering works if she is of the welloff sector of the society. Only one thing that remains in the women after getting into their 50s: looking Nice whenever seen by someone else other than the faithful Hubby! But, don't remind her she has been losing something, just don't be a reminder, otherwise a friction in the relationship takes place.
Salam |
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moll
Joined: 03 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: reply on The Explorer the Great |
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SeaBird wrote:
Speaking in general terms; women on approaching the 50 gate face a drastic hormonal change with preference towards asexual life style. So a career woman finds pleasure in satisfying her profesional ambition towards a challenging more senior position at her work place, more attention towards her kids/grandkids if she is not employed, more time in Churches/Mosques' related activities if she is religous, more indulgence in social/volunteering works if she is of the welloff sector of the society. Only one thing that remains in the women after getting into their 50s: looking Nice whenever seen by someone else other than the faithful Hubby! But, don't remind her she has been losing something, just don't be a reminder, otherwise a friction in the relationship takes place.
Salam
Yeah, I'm sure you're right, SB .......... :roll:
I myself am asexual :cry:
PS I don't know the first thing about prostrates, don't have one myself :? but the advice about masturbating sounds like a load of piffle to me...... |
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kamar
Joined: 24 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:00 pm Post subject: Re: reply on The Explorer the Great |
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SeaBird wrote:
Speaking in general terms; women on approaching the 50 gate face a drastic hormonal change with preference towards asexual life style.
No way. I'm not 50 but I think I'll not become into an asexual life.
here we say that life start to 49 years so........all have to start :lol: :lol: :lol: |
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Hoss
Joined: 20 Sep 2005
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Location: Cairo, Egypt
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:50 am Post subject: |
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SB,
I don't think you need to know what that saw palmetto is...I am sure the alternative or even better is found here in Arab countries or Egypt...Dr Abdel Aal has really proved to provide excellent solutions to many health issues...did you try consulting with him?
As for prostate gland enlargement, I would do whatever a trusted doctor would recommend...I am very much into alternative medicine anyway...I would take several opinions before I proceed with the best that suits me |
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kamar
Joined: 24 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: reply on The Explorer the Great |
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kamar wrote:
No way. I'm not 50 but I think I'll not become into an asexual life.
here we say that life start to 49 years so........all have to start :lol: :lol: :lol:
Sorry : I have to correct this :
here we say life strat to 40 years old
:lol: :lol: :lol: |
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SeaBird
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Location: Alexandrea, EGYPT
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:29 pm Post subject: reply |
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GoodEvening EveryOne
A few hours ago, on my way back from office, the car driver had a chat with me, It was a very stressful day at office, so as I was seated I said: It's nice to get back home to the warmth & caring of my dear wife. The car driver, substitute to Hany (Hany in vacation), commented: speaking about how the women could be passionate, my wife told me yesterday how a relative of her in her early thirties complaining about her husband, midthirties, losing interest in sex!!? this story triggered something animal in nature from inside me wishing if He, whoever that he, just let me to borrow his making-love thirst partner, but instantly regained my rational thinking telling the driver that He, the asexual husband, could probably be with some illness, that the thirties are supposed to be the maximum years of sexual power. They have young girl in kindergarden school. He then told me another relevant story about another relative of his wife, this time complaining about how her husband leaving her for 2 months without sex while He regularly matsurbates in the bathroom!!!? They had a fight and their marriage on the edge of breaking apart. they have 3 kids.
Comment: I am telling these stories to let the Western Viewers have a look at how the Egyptians can reveal/talk about their very personal things in private. I guess the Westerners I came to know are mostly secretive about their personal lifestyle.
Question: What had happened to the used-to-be counted as Virile Egyptian men? is it the polluted drinking water? is it the chemically (cancerous pects) polluted food? is it the hormonal enriched fastfood restaurnts' meals (in or home delivery)?
Hoss
I do need Saw Palmetto in capsules or even in whatever food that it may be in. I am taking a drug called PROSCAR. The MD Doctor, top in Alex, prescribed that medicine for 6 month, and he told me it may need further several months of extra doses depending on the condition he will find on the next examination. So, I would like to add natural Herbs besides PROSCAR, hoping the Doc won't prescribe more drug doses. I still have 2 months for the next examination, so natural Herbs could help having me in better shape than relying only on the drug.
Would you let me know the Link to Dr Abdel Aal's website?
or his Mobile Phone #?
mailing address?
Yesterday evening I was shopping at Carrefour hypermarket, All the issues of Dr Abdel Aal's book were sold! just vanished from the bookshelf!
Moll
You most probably are kidding me by saying your life now is asexual.
You haven't entered your 50s yet, and you haven't had a Hysterectomy operation like that my DW (about to enter her 50s) had. So, I just like to add here that the women in their early fifties can enjoy the sexual act but not as often as they used to, not as comfortable as it used to be, not for long as time/act is concerned, why?
Progestrone (Female sex hormone) secretion gradually decreases as
the women pass the 45 gate, get to a minimum as they enter their 50s, but that minimum can let them enjoy the sexual act (or part of it) now and then.
Kamar
People can say: Life starts after the 40s, 50s, 60s, or even the seventies.
This is a tool that can be used to cheer up their spirit, but the remaining Fact of Life is that People suffer from Aging as they get older.
You All Have a Youthful NonAging Evening.
Salam. |
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moll
Joined: 03 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:50 pm Post subject: Re: reply |
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SeaBird wrote: [
Moll
You most probably are kidding me by saying your life now is asexual.
Yes
Quote: You haven't entered your 50s yet, and you haven't had a Hysterectomy operation like that my DW (about to enter her 50s) had.
Salam.
SB, I HAVE entered my 50s, I've never pretended that I'm not the age I am, bit late to start pretending I'm some glamorous young babe now :(
I haven't had a hysterectomy though, I don't know if that makes a difference......but so far, the only difference the hormone thing has made to me is, I've turned into a moody b*tch 8) Everything else is just as it was.........
But I have to admit, sitting looking round our staffroom at other women the same age as me, it kind of stretches my imagination imagining them having a passionate roll around :shock:
Comment: I don't know if it's just me, but I don't talk about my sex life to ANYBODY, not even my best friend.. |
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RoughShod
Joined: 02 Sep 2004
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Location: South Africa
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:06 am Post subject: |
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Seabird, life is not about ones prostrate gland , or ones other unfortunate fallibilities, we all going to die one way or another. When death approaches in whatever dress code, does it matter?
I have not had a prostate examinination ever, because I just don't appreciate some doctor sticking his finger up my *beep*.
But if I have a problem there, I will face the consequences...death.
On the other hand, If I getg cancer of the lung from smoking too much, or if i get killed in an accident, gues what, I will still be facing the same consequence....death.
If i live longer than others, guess what will stop it happening for ever, you right...death
If your prostate suddenly becomes a cause for emminent death...you know what, so what, you going to die sometime or another
I might die tomorrow in a motor car incidence, or I may die because of prostate cancer, because I dirrent want some doctor sticking his finger up my bumm
What I really have to wondert about though, is why I am alive in the first place.
Is there a reason why I am alive, if so, that reason best keep me alive till I have achieved what I was born to do
If there is no reason for my being alive, then I don't mind dying from prostate cancer or anything else, because quite honestly, if all I am is an animal, to live and die by the laws of nature, then I don't give a f**k for the laws of nature
I happen to have an advanced brain, given to believing more than mere laws of nature. I happen to believe somebody higher than me takes pleasure in my existance
If that person condemns me to die, then I will accept it, if that someone makes me to be rat *beep*, then I accept it, because it is better than dying alone, as a simple animal, just created to be food for others
But that higher one, does not take advantage of my weaknesses, That higher one exults in my heart, its warmth and caring, and forgives my foolishnesses of mere humanitarian need
Life is not defined by death, it is defined by the non fearing of death..it is defined by a believe in the creator of life |
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moll
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Roughshod, seriously...........are you sure you aren't a bit depressed? you seem to be a bit obsessed with death :( |
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SeaBird
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Location: Alexandrea, EGYPT
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| Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:04 am Post subject: reply on Moll |
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On the Contrary Moll
this is what I managed to interpret out of his post:
Rough has a Philosophy very typical among the Moslems: surrender to your fate, whatever distined to you will happen.
It keeps the Moslems in peace with themselves until it happens.
Unfortunately, as I was raised in a brocken family, no Father around, so I was influenced with the Philosophies I was reading about, refusing the typical dominating Cultural Norms in my surroundings
Whenever I felt the anxiety of facing my "calculated" expectations, I used to envy the Calmness of the typical Moslems around me.
My scientific background obliges me to take whatever necessary to "control" any disfunction if its symptoms begin to show up
In the Toilet of my work place, I see men in their fifties having difficulties to urinate, and when I say my advice: have a check of your Prostate, they look with resentment at me, as if they are quite sure their Prostate is in normal size without examination. While all I noticed about myself was simply:
the frequency of my urination got more than I used to have.
Rough:
A man doesn't have to let the Doctor finger his hole to reach the Prostate,
the Sonar test (Televised by sound waves) is very simple and it shows the details of the size of the Prostate on a TV monitor's screen
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a Blood Test called IPS can show if there is any Malignant (Cancerous) trend within the Prostate tissue or not.
Thanks God; my IPS result was even lower than the normal range.
just 2 simple preliminary tests can assure a man if his symptoms safe or not
mine are quite normal
but I wish I, like the wise Explorer the Great does, take a natural Herb to help the Medicine/drug stop the Prostate from getting more enlargement.
My advice to every man about to cross the 50s gate:
Have a Sonar exam
Have the IPS blood test
I wish I could have had these 2 simple tests ten years ago.
Both can tell if there is any thing to worry about or not.
Salam |
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