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ratty



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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:55 pm    Post subject: 7/7  

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kamar



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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:22 pm    Post subject:  

:( :( :( So bad what happend...I remember that day Like was yesterday :(

A prayer for all this people and them family.
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moll



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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:22 pm    Post subject:  

I was standing in a queue at a till when the 2 minutes silence started.......they turned off the music in the shop and everybody stood still and quiet, except there was a screaming baby behind me, and then this old granny started talking to the baby, saying daft things like, You're too handsome to be crying :roll: She didn't seem to have noticed the sign that said, There will be a 2 minute silence at 12noon to remember the victims of the London bombings, or to have noticed that it had gone all quiet :roll:

Half of me felt like glaring at her and pointing out the notice, the other half wondered what the point of it all was.....

People are being killed all over the world, every minute of every day, people who AREN'T remembered except by their relatives and friends, people just as innocent as those who were killed in the London bombings :(

I don't really know what purpose it serves, it happened, and people remember it happened....but it doesn't bring them back, it doesn't help people to move on, it just re-ignites all the feelings of that day and brings them back into focus :( It's not going to prevent it happening again......what purpose does it have?
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moll



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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:06 am    Post subject:  

ratty's going to kick my head in for saying that, I know he is...........

I think I'll go and read my book now
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ratty



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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:46 am    Post subject:  

moll wrote: ratty's going to kick my head in for saying that, I know he is...........

I think I'll go and read my book now


:?
why?

i understand what you mean.

i suppose its just our way of showing respect for the people that lost there lives.

what makes it worse is that the terrorists were citizens excepted into our society.

they killed there own! they want to profit & prosper from our way of life, but condem its fellow citizens.
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kamar



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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:54 am    Post subject:  

ratty wrote:

i suppose its just our way of showing respect for the people that lost there lives.

I don't find wrong do this Ratty. It is a way fro don't forget what happen and for remember that people lost them life there.

what makes it worse is that the terrorists were citizens excepted into our society.

Those people are false our citizens. They are living in our coutries hating we and waiting only the moment for to heat we.

they killed there own! they want to profit & prosper from our way of life, but condem its fellow citizens.

Those people are false and you said a right thing : they want to profit & prosper from our way of life, but condem its fellow citizens. But in much of them there is only hate in their eyes against we.

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max



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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:38 pm    Post subject:  

kamar wrote: ratty wrote:

i suppose its just our way of showing respect for the people that lost there lives.

I don't find wrong do this Ratty. It is a way fro don't forget what happen and for remember that people lost them life there.

what makes it worse is that the terrorists were citizens excepted into our society.

Those people are false our citizens. They are living in our coutries hating we and waiting only the moment for to heat we.

they killed there own! they want to profit & prosper from our way of life, but condem its fellow citizens.

Those people are false and you said a right thing : they want to profit & prosper from our way of life, but condem its fellow citizens. But in much of them there is only hate in their eyes against we.




I DONT agree that for a moment,what you are saying is that 'these people,i assume you mean non whites/muslims have a hatred towards their fellow citizens,i actually resent the generalisation of this terminology,i abhor this kind of racial/secreterian kind of speech,not all'These people' are terrorist after all didnt blair & bush invade and still occupy other countries,but you cannot say all americans&brits are warmongers,can you,eh??Onother thing i would like to make clear,that these thugs who use violence as a means to an end are nothing but human vermin,whether they are westerners,white,coloured,muslims,christian etc,etc,however they are few.so lets not get carried away with emotions.
thx
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moll



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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:54 pm    Post subject:  

ratty wrote: moll wrote: ratty's going to kick my head in for saying that, I know he is...........

I think I'll go and read my book now


:?
why?

i understand what you mean.

i suppose its just our way of showing respect for the people that lost there lives.

what makes it worse is that the terrorists were citizens excepted into our society.

they killed there own! they want to profit & prosper from our way of life, but condem its fellow citizens.

I don't really know why, ratty.......I just kind of asumed that bcs it was a kind of 'establishment' kind of thing, you'd be all for it and wouldn't take any criticism of it very well :? sorry if I misjudged you....

I can perfectly understand the relatives and friends of those who died, and the people who were injured, wanting and needing to mark the anniversary with remembrance services and things like that :( but I think for the whole country to grind to a halt, for it to be splashed all over the front pages of the newspapers and making the headlines in the news, like it's just happened, is a bit over the top and I don't see that it helps the families at all.......

It's as if that's the only atrocity and terrorist attack that matters to people in this country, people all over the world have died in their thousands in the last year but they hardly get a mention never mind a full scale rehash of how they died and who they were and who they left behind and all the rest of it :(
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kamar



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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:35 pm    Post subject:  

[quote="max
,not all'These people' are terrorist after all didnt blair & bush invade and still occupy other countries,but you
[/quote]

Yes, true : not all these people are terrorist, I'm agree with you but anyway, much of them hate we.
I'm sorry for to say this but I live in Italy where there are much foreigner people and I'm sorry for to say, but much of them are hating we, expecially Moroccan people.
I say this because happen to me, more one time, that some Moroccan said in my face that they hate we, they stay in Italy only for work but for the other, we are only s.....t for them and they don't like we and they are speaking bad against we every moment.
They are not killing we but anyway is strong the hate that they have against we, netherless they lives in my country.......

Is not so nice when somebody is living here, having all here and have this hate against you....I don't like it.
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kamar



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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:45 pm    Post subject:  

And backing to my previous post, with " those people " I mean those people that made terrorist attack, not all foreigner people.
I though this was clear, answering to Ratty's post.
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ratty



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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:16 am    Post subject:  

max wrote: kamar wrote: ratty wrote:

i suppose its just our way of showing respect for the people that lost there lives.

I don't find wrong do this Ratty. It is a way fro don't forget what happen and for remember that people lost them life there.

what makes it worse is that the terrorists were citizens excepted into our society.

Those people are false our citizens. They are living in our coutries hating we and waiting only the moment for to heat we.

they killed there own! they want to profit & prosper from our way of life, but condem its fellow citizens.

Those people are false and you said a right thing : they want to profit & prosper from our way of life, but condem its fellow citizens. But in much of them there is only hate in their eyes against we.




I DONT agree that for a moment,what you are saying is that 'these people,i assume you mean non whites/muslims have a hatred towards their fellow citizens,i actually resent the generalisation of this terminology,i abhor this kind of racial/secreterian kind of speech,not all'These people' are terrorist after all didnt blair & bush invade and still occupy other countries,but you cannot say all americans&brits are warmongers,can you,eh??Onother thing i would like to make clear,that these thugs who use violence as a means to an end are nothing but human vermin,whether they are westerners,white,coloured,muslims,christian etc,etc,however they are few.so lets not get carried away with emotions.
thx


where did i mention MUSLIM OR NONE WHITE?
i was talking about terrorists!

i must admit i find your post very ignorant insulting :shock:
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kamar



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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:25 am    Post subject:  

Are you saying to me Ratty ?

Now I start to be confused about all this and also maybe I've been wrong and I gone off topic with my answer :oops: :oops: :oops:
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ratty



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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:29 am    Post subject:  

kamar wrote: Are you saying to me Ratty ?

Now I start to be confused about all this and also maybe I've been wrong and I gone off topic with my answer :oops: :oops: :oops:

no kamar my answer is to max
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kamar



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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:36 am    Post subject:  

I think Max was not agrre in what I written Ratty, not with you.
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max



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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:52 am    Post subject:  

Rat,
Pls try Reading carefully before jumping to conclusions,Otherwise you could cause unnessary confusion.
moll,
iam inclined to agree with you about the hatred some of these terrorist have for the west,They are just hypocrites&should be dealt with accordingly,the thing is my dear is that innocent and peace loving people like myself get alot of stick for nothing and if this goes on then a lot of people wioll feel isolated and let down,We have a saying back in africa2It takes two hands to clap"I think that both sides The western govt.&the ethnic minority leaders MUST Resolve this issues before it is too late.

peace&love
max :) :)
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