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Jaguar
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 10:53 am Post subject: Oil |
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Why the hell don't we generalize Solar and Wind Energy ?? I have always had solar showers at home
http://www.bloomberg.com/energy/
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Monica
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 10:46 pm Post subject: Re: Oil |
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jaguar.. in June 2002, I attended a conference in Amman Jordan, for the Gov. of Canada ( part of Team Canada at the time)..regarding this issue.
There is a large scale project for the integration of solar and wind power in South Mediterrenean countries for 2010.
Project name is Med 2010.
The consortium of 14 partners participating in this project include Egypt ..
Jaguar wrote: Why the hell don't we generalize Solar and Wind Energy ?? I have always had solar showers at home
http://www.bloomberg.com/energy/
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Monica
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:07 pm Post subject: Re: Oil |
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For YE members, some info related to Solar Energy ...
The ancient Egyptian Pharaohs solar heated their palaces by capturing solar energy in black pools of water by day and draining the hot water into pipes in the floor of the palaces at night.
Affluent ancient Greeks designed their homes orientated to the sun to use winter sunlight for heating. Large south-facing windows were used to collect solar heat, which was stored in massive walls and floors forgradual release throughout the night. The overhangs would heat the homes in the winter and shade out the sun in summer.
"Sun power is a pure gain to humanity, It subtracts nothing, the world will not be in the last impoverished tomorrow by the fullest use of visible solar heat to-day" -C.H. Pope 1903
In Egypt in 1912, Shuman and Boys used the sun to generate a 60 horsepower engine for a irrigation project. They built a 220 foot longparabolic trough collector which, in principle, is still in use today. In 1939, the first modern attempt to heat houses with solar energy started with a model home built at MIT. Solar energy is not new and is a well-proven technology. To quote Sir George Porter, "If sunbeams were weapons of war, we would have had solar energy centuries ago."
Solar energy has been suppressed for too long. The question is, who will own the sun? Some might say that "power corrupts" was written about man's control over other men but it also applies to his control over energyresources. Solar energy put to full use would help to give the world energy independence, minimizing dangerous pollution levels and our dependence on fossil fuels.
Who would think, in this age of environmental concern, that some people can still feel that solar energy does not work.
Some people feel solar will be practical when all the oil runs out. This is not true!. Solar is cost effective right now, especially when you considert he cost to our health from air pollution, solar is just as competitive as any other energy source.
There are over one hundred thousand solar powered homes in the world. These pioneering home owners can now cut their ties to the utility grid and become their own power company. Solar is a stand alone micro-utility -nobody owns the sun!. Its energy falls in all our back yards. Solar energy is decentralized, there are few economies of scale in the collectingof solar energy. Therefore, many small collectors are just as efficient as one large one. |
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raymon
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:25 am Post subject: reaction not action |
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Because we are waiting for our oil to run out … and then think about the alternatives.
This seems to be the modus vivendi in our region … reaction not action.
Jaguar wrote: Why the hell don't we generalize Solar and Wind Energy ?? I have always had solar showers at home
http://www.bloomberg.com/energy/
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Laura
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Katrina
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:10 am Post subject: |
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The Oil Shortage.
A lot of folks cannot understand how we came to have an oil shortage here in America. Well there is a very simple answer:
Nobody bothered to check the oil. We just didn't know we were getting low. The reason for that is purely geographical. Our oil is in Alaska, Texas, California, and Oklahoma. BUT Our dipsticks are in Washington D.C
Yours, KAT |
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Laura
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Katrina
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:34 am Post subject: |
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Laura wrote: Katrina wrote: The Oil Shortage.
A lot of folks cannot understand how we came to have an oil shortage here in America. Well there is a very simple answer:
Nobody bothered to check the oil. We just didn't know we were getting low. The reason for that is purely geographical. Our oil is in Alaska, Texas, California, and Oklahoma. BUT Our dipsticks are in Washington D.C
Yours, KAT
HAHAHAHAHAHA sooooooooo true..:)
hehehe yeahhh it kind of goes sooooo hand in hand with your signature about the two term rule for politicians HAHAHAH |
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fridaies
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:25 am Post subject: Re: Oil |
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| i am for the wind energy :lol: |
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Katrina
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:31 am Post subject: Re: Oil |
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fridaies wrote: i am for the wind energy :lol:
This is awesome and believe me some states such as Wisconsin (Laura, you can clap :wink: ) do hvae wind technology already in use, but for an alternative energy technology to take off on a big scale in the US, major investment is needed. Oil companies will not do that, yet I hope they will die out as railways as a result for not making at least a rational business decision if not a good deed for humanity. They will never do the latter but jusitfy that their primary objective and responsibility as a for profit business is to max shareholder value not to stop wars and bloodshed. Yet, who but not our government can do this then? On this, please, read my previous post on this subject. :lol: :shock: :cry: |
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fridaies
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:38 am Post subject: Re: Oil |
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we (they) have windmills of this type too...but they r not picturesque and they r found mainly in coastal areas or on the border with Germany because they make a lot of noise..One disadvantage too is that the birds get trapped in them!!!
Katrina wrote: fridaies wrote: i am for the wind energy :lol:
This is awesome and believe me some states such as Wisconsin (Laura, you can clap :wink: ) do hvae wind technology already in use, but for an alternative energy technology to take off on a big scale in the US, major investment is needed. Oil companies will not do that, yet I hope they will die out as railways as a result for not making at least a rational business decision if not a good deed for humanity. They will never do the latter but jusitfy that their primary objective and responsibility as a for profit business is to max shareholder value not to stop wars and bloodshed. Yet, who but not our government can do this then? On this, please, read my previous post on this subject. :lol: :shock: :cry: |
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