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raymon · Joined: 20 Nov 2003 Posts: 1452 Location: Here

The First Knight Richard Gere had recently paid a visit to the occupied Palestinian territories ... does this make any difference?

http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2004-06/06/article06.shtml

Monica · Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 4933 Location: Egypt

Although I like Richard Gere he seems to be a respectable man... and some of his movies I enjoyed..( First Knight as a matter of fact) and he comes through as honest in his interviews.. and the fact that he has this peaceful aura...is nice...but I'm afraid I feel like saying something a bit osé....in regards with his visit... but I just moderated my own thoughts...It is sweet of him but... what the h**** will THAT change.....and then I have these very wicked feelings and I'm wondering mmm is there a new movie in the make??? is he trying to be nice to the Islamic world for some hidden reason? and then I think no way he might be genuine ...and at the end of the day I try to be so positive.. really trying.....and think..Oh well he made that man in the picture smile at least!!! :wink:

raymon wrote: The First Knight Richard Gere had recently paid a visit to the occupied Palestinian territories ... does this make any difference?

http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2004-06/06/article06.shtml

El Kadafi · Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 131

A kind gesture which will not sway the situation to any side (unless you're Jewish, then you will probably find a way to end the man's career and take all his assets)

Jaguar · Joined: 21 Mar 2004 Posts: 2039

Monica.. I do agree with you, the road to civility is full of good intentions and also Masaale7.

raymon · Joined: 20 Nov 2003 Posts: 1452 Location: Here

Gere is Buddhist … may be this has some relation to his inclination to Palestinians.

But, it would be a very grave mistake if Palestinians think they can rely on celebrities to change the course of politics to their favor.
The road to success in politics nowadays runs through comprehension of where is your interest lying?

Laura · Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 616 Location: Alexandria

Luxorlover · Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 422 Location: Luxor and England

Richard Gere is the (official/unofficial?) spokesman of the Dali Lama and wrote the forward to his last book. He has been an activist for human rights for more than twenty years. His integrity is without question. The Dali Lama is an astute man and would not place such great faith in an impostor. His visit would hav had nothing to do with an upcoming film.

This does not mean that his visit to Palestine will make any difference. It just brings it a little more to the attention of the world.

In Britian there are many who support the plight of Palestine as the picture painted to them by the media is becoming less and less biased towards Israel and more representative of what is happening. If while gawping at pictures of Richard Gere they become more familiar with the tregedy that faces many Palestinian familes, then I applaud his efforts.

Luxorlover · Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 422 Location: Luxor and England

PS Tibet, who Gere supports through the Dali Lama, was annexed by China decades ago and there was violence and bloodshed throughout the country similar to that in Palestine.

Katrina · Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 991 Location: USA

Laura · Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 616 Location: Alexandria

Monica · Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 4933 Location: Egypt

mmmmm....?????????
difficult to answer this... :wink:
Hey that gave me a creative idea..let's partner with Michael Moore and make one he he he :twisted: :twisted:

Laura wrote: Katrina,

Hollywood and the Media are owned/controlled mostly by Jews. Do you ever think a TRUE, FAIR, AND UNBIASED movie would ever be produced?

Laura

Katrina · Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 991 Location: USA

Laura wrote: Katrina,

Hollywood and the Media are owned/controlled mostly by Jews. Do you ever think a TRUE, FAIR, AND UNBIASED movie would ever be produced?

Laura

Laura, of course I KNOW.................I was in my fantasy world... I guess it was my wish, at least for a documentary... Look at their Prince of Egypt production, full of historical discrepencies and that is targeted at children :(

raymon · Joined: 20 Nov 2003 Posts: 1452 Location: Here

Katrina, I always wonder what do the Palestinian side do to counter the media machine of Israel … nothing but suicide bombers?

About two years ago Arafat was interviewed by CNN … the anchor politely asked him a question that provoked him much and he suddenly stood up and started to shout … I wonder how would an American who knows nothing about the region get a correct picture of what is happening there.

Few months ago I saw a young spokeswoman for the Palestinian Authority speaking to BBC … she was amazing and very convincing … but how many there like her?

The key to the media is diversity … reach out to the people through their heart … not by terror, something that is not understandable in the region so far.

Very few people believe in Gandhi … they mostly believe in Bin Laden and Sharon.

Katrina · Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 991 Location: USA

Raymon,

You are so right. Violence and revenge are not the answers. Suicide attacks and Israili violence create a vicious cirlce. Human life is preciuos. Also, the math is not going to work. A suicider kills say 20, and an Apatchie or tank can kill more and at a faster rate than birth rate in Palestine. A political solution should be sought. The leverage Israel has over Palestine has to be eliminated politically not by suicide attacks. The world support is lost and the Palestinian cause is not seen.

Ghandi is a remarkable example of not only tolerance but he was also a shrewed politician in making the entire world see the horror of the British occupation without using force. Recently as the CA sun set on the grave of the 40th US President, R. Reagan, Margaret Thatcher said about him remarkable words: "He won the cold war without firing a shot, inviting his enemies to his fortress and making them friends". Reagan's "enemy" and friend, Mikhail Gorbachev came to say his final farewell and shared memories about his American friend and President. The cold was was ended politically. There is no comparison between the two "evil" empires and Israel and Palestine, but why not to solve the problem politically?

M. Thatcher, Reagan, and Gorbachev were visionaries of their time, but where are the rays of profound thought in our time who can put this I-P conflict to an end? Any influencers at least who can plant a seed of future reconciliation? How about Israili and Palestinian youth? Before the start of the intifada in 2000, I watched a program about youth organizations which were formed by the youth of both countries to reach understanding, friendship, and change. As the new wave of violence began, youth drifted apart, some kept in touch, some joined the Israili Army, friendships broke... Sad. Such a chance for peace was lost

How about Queen Rania? Few years ago she appeared on Larry King's Live and spoke so intelligently and rationally yet so empathetically about the region problems. One female figure with significant influence, politically untarnished reputation and nuetrality and great credibility and class in the US is Oprah Winfrey. Oprah could have had Rania on her show as well as Palestinians. Little step but in a good direction. One can write a book, make a documentary and Oprah would buy and give them for free to the audience. Spread the knowledge. Leaflets of the truth. Truth hurts, but knowledge is contageous and powerful. Make them feel and relate to their own historical plight and shame (treatment of Indians, blacks, Japanese during WW2), yes, reach through their hearts to get sympathy and give knowledge to get results. Suicide attacks trigger negative images of 9/11 here and people relate to Israeilis faster feeling fear and paranoia of the past, while the ruthless machine turns its wheels and the world sees more and more deaths every day but remains silent.

Guest · Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 11:56 am Post subject:

Every suicide bomber does the equivolent of shooting Palestine in the foot and crippling it.