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Monica
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| Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 7:23 pm Post subject: Closer/Julia Roberts have you seen it? |
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| very interrrrresting movie... |
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Hani
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 10:11 am Post subject: |
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is it still out ????
i want to see oceans twelve......
asl im a Julia fan :D |
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Monica
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 10:28 am Post subject: |
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It is in Ottawa...will be soon on pay TV..if you have a Rogers package..Julia has a very small role on ocean twelve but sooo GOOD!!
Ocean twelve: the movie is OK ..Pitt and Clooney are dashing..Italy is A superb background..fabulous environment..but I found it weak in terms of action!! :wink:
Hani wrote: is it still out ????
i want to see oceans twelve......
asl im a Julia fan :D |
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Hani
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Monica wrote: It is in Ottawa...will be soon on pay TV..if you have a Rogers package..Julia has a very small role on ocean twelve but sooo GOOD!!
Ocean twelve: the movie is OK ..Pitt and Clooney are dashing..Italy is A superb background..fabulous environment..but I found it weak in terms of action!! :wink:
Hani wrote: is it still out ????
i want to see oceans twelve......
asl im a Julia fan :D
ageeb el rogers package lagl 3yoon julia... ashan atered men el beet :D :lol: :lol: .... thanx for the info ;) |
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Alisa
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| Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: Closer/Julia Roberts have you seen it? |
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Monica wrote: very interrrrresting movie...
What is so interesting about this movie, Monica? |
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Monica
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| Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: Closer/Julia Roberts have you seen it? |
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Hey Alisa...how are you?
I think you should see the movie first, and then we can compare notes.. deal?
If I tell you it would not be fair to you..
It is interesting all the way..but especially the end!!!
Alisa wrote: Monica wrote: very interrrrresting movie...
Waht is so interesting about this movie, Monica? |
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Alisa
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| Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: Closer/Julia Roberts have you seen it? |
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Monica wrote: Hey Alisa...how are you?
I think you should see the movie first, and then we can compare notes.. deal?
If I tell you it would not be fair to you..
It is interesting all the way..but especially the end!!!
Alisa wrote: Monica wrote: very interrrrresting movie...
Waht is so interesting about this movie, Monica?
go ahead tell your opinion, because i did see it. |
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Jaguar
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| Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Morally speaking, I am not the prime example to make any contribution, but I hated the film..
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Monica
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| Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Since people always accuse men of being the cheats and the ones to have affairs etc..and women that take back their husbands after they cheated on them..I thought it was an interesting twist ...and observing the mind of a woman cheating/loving two people/ :lol: and then the man forgiving was interesting..
Jaguar wrote: Morally speaking, I am not the prime example to make any contribution, but I hated the film..
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Alisa
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Monica wrote: Since people always accuse men of being the cheats and the ones to have affairs etc..and women that take back their husbands after they cheated on them..I thought it was an interesting twist ...and observing the mind of a woman cheating/loving two people/ :lol: and then the man forgiving was interesting..
Jaguar wrote: Morally speaking, I am not the prime example to make any contribution, but I hated the film..
:evil: :evil:
If I to write a review on this movie, I would say this:
1. To say this movie is shallow is a compliment
2. IT IS TOTAL CRAP!
As a Russian, I take a trip to the theater, opera, ballet, and movie theater as a serious affair, i.e. I call it (at least in our family) "a holiday for my soul". This was a trip from HELL |
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Alisa
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First of all, I do not remember the time I walked out of the movie theater not finishing watching the movie. But myself, my American friends walked out of the movie theater about half the way through.
Cheating, forgiveness? Are these the themes of the movie? Is this a way to tell it to the audience? No plot, no theme, no central thought, no good acting, foul language, where people do not even say "have sex" but extensively use and treat life as one big "f"? It does not matter who, when, where, why, just 'f". Is that the movie worth watching? I felt I wasted 1 hour of my life, never regretted wasting an hour of my life as watching this movie half way through.
This is the world where the most moral person is the stripper! Not in terms of her life choices and values, but she at least did not hurt anybody while her code of moral values is not the greatest. but what about the rest of three?
One of the first scenes.. and it is enough, you can leave the theater as you would learn noting more important from it. Nothing, Nothingness, but dirt, digusting downside of human existance, filth, and perversion.
That Dan comes to the studio to be photographed... or another when he sets up the doctor with Anna using the online chat session.. People meet and start relationships based on urges, period. Nobody even stops to think beyond that. Not even animal passion, not even sense of plain heat.. worse it is about passionless boredom, self-indulgence, and self-obsession, it is not even doen for the cheating, but just 'f" for the heck of it.
This Larry comes to the Aquarium to see a whore, being a victim of a practical joke. Did it stop Anna? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Did she get offended with Dan? with doctor Larry wearing his white robe as a "password" where she is basicly treated as a hooker? NOOOOOOOOOO. She starts dating him. Ooops, how life is so easy and so simple. WHERE IS ANY THOUGHT, ANY IDEA OF LOVE, CHEATING HERE? pleas show me! it is all about HUMAN DEGRADATION
When the stripper Alice learns about her boyfriend's cheating, she says to that obituary writer smth like why this *beep* does not love her while she is the one who would love more than anybody else in this world. She almost begs him to see it. His answer: He loves Anna because Anna does not need him! and Alice does! wonderful! Does not it disgust you???!!!! isn't this disturbing?
There is way too much dirt, filth, and perversion in life; there is no need to show it that bluntly. I am very disappointed in Julia to even accept to be casted
This movie was especially disturbing to me as I watched "The Phantom of the Opera" the day before, a movie of true and pure love with good acting and absolutely gorgeous music, ballet. Something very great, elevating. Is it what the ART should do, touch the inner corners of our souls? It should not be senseless stuff which reminds me of monologues of Science Sailor when he switches from politics to other matters |
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Alisa
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He Said, She Said Movie Review: "Closer" -- a cast of "truly unpleasant people"
By ALLEN LUNDE and MICHELLE MacEACHERN - The Buzz
"Closer," starring Julia Roberts and Jude Law, Natalie Portman and Clive Owen, is about four people with interlocking relationships.
MICHELLE: This film bored me so much I'd recommend it as an antidote from insomnia. But then it gets annoying at times. At least truly horrible flicks like "Gigli" or "Showgirls" are laughably bad. This one doesn't even seem to try. It was like Julia Roberts had just taken a very large sleeping pill before each scene, and it had a similar effect on me.
ALLEN: I don't recommend the film, but not for the same reason. Basically the film asks you to spend two hours with some truly unpleasant people. With everyone traveling home for the holidays, we all have that opportunity already. The film's view of love and sex is cynical and dark. I find it impossible to identify with these people.
MICHELLE: It also suffers from odd casting. Clive Owen plays the world's sexiest dermatologist, who bores Roberts' character so much she gets involved with a self-absorbed obituary writer who fixates on her in stalker-like fashion.Owen's dermatologist made me think of an old "Saturday Night Live" skit: "Mel Gibson: Dream Gynecologist."
ALLEN: I didn't find Owen sexy, which is probably a good sign. I found him creepy. The first meeting between Roberts and Owen is truly disturbing. Roberts appears like a woman looking to attract a psychotic stalker.
MICHELLE: It's like the three characters played by Law, Owen and Roberts become so bored with their own self-absorption they need to find new lovers to play off of. In another odd choice, Natalie Portman plays an American stripper who falls for the obituary writer.She's too innocent-looking for the part of a 24-year-old woman who takes her clothes off for a living. She sees the love affair between Law and Roberts coming, but does nothing about it. I couldn't identify with any of them either.
ALLEN: I actually liked Portman's character. Law's character has written a novel based on her life and when Owen's meets her, he is surprised at her look because she seems so innocent. I think the film tries to make a point that the most innocent character of the bunch is the one who works in the sex industry. The problem is by the time you realize that you probably don't care.
MICHELLE: I certainly didn't. But I also couldn't see why the Roberts' character would leave the doctor for the writer, then go back. It all seemed terribly arbitrary. Based on the shallowness of the characters, I found myself thinking it must have been money, because she didn't have any visible chemistry with either of them. It's like they're walking through the set-up to get to the dramatic conclusion, and it never comes.
ALLEN: The characters also made odd, sudden changes in emotional direction. You have characters telling other characters they are in love after a couple of minutes ofconversation. The only recognizable emotion in the entire movie is Owen's character's need for revenge. The movie asks you to be entertained by or interested in characters you can't respect. That's too much to ask on a Sunday matinee.
MICHELLE: You know, it was the perfect kind of a day for a relationship movie when we went in -- dark and foggy.But between the miscasting, the lack of an understandable motive on behalf of the characters, and the odd coincidences that link them together, I didn't care.There are two interesting scenes with Owen's character -- one where he convinces his soon-to-be ex-wife to sleep with him out of pity, and another where he lords his victory over his would-be usurper. But it doesn't save the film. That would be too Herculean an effort for even this broad-shouldered actor.
Michelle MacEachern and Allen Lunde aren't professional movie reviewers; they're just a married couple who like to go to the movies. |
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