Your Egypt

raymon · Joined: 20 Nov 2003 Posts: 1452 Location: Here

Ladies, ..be aware of the style that would break your heart OUT OF EGYPT!!!

http://www.borges-online.de/misterishgallery2.html

Would you still fall in love with a gigolo?????

bitsy · Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 3

Egyptian men ..The best!

Monica · Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 4933 Location: Egypt

C'mon...gimme a break these men spend too much time taking care of their bodies ..when do they go make a living??

bitsy wrote: Raymond,

Do Egyptian men look so strong? No wonder why many women fall for them..

I love the pics ... more more please ...

Katrina · Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 991 Location: USA

raymon wrote: Ladies, ..be aware of the style that would break your heart OUT OF EGYPT!!!

http://www.borges-online.de/misterishgallery2.html

Would you still fall in love with a gigolo?????

If this is the type that is shown in pics on the website women fall for in Egypt, sorryyyyyyyyyyyy but this is pretty obvious. Honestly, I woud not give such dudes even 8 seconds of my glance.

Laura · Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 616 Location: Alexandria

Luxorlover · Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 422 Location: Luxor and England

Sorry Laura, but the one I fell for looked even better !! Broadish shoulders, defined muscles, slim hips and legs that went all the way up to his armpits.

If it was he only way that I would find the courage to move to Egypt, then the answer would have to be Yes.

Not sure I like being referred to as "these women" though. Makes me sound like some sort of lesser being - which I am not.

Jaguar · Joined: 21 Mar 2004 Posts: 2039

Katrina · Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 991 Location: USA

Luxorlover wrote: Sorry Laura, but the one I fell for looked even better !! Broadish shoulders, defined muscles, slim hips and legs that went all the way up to his armpits.

If it was he only way that I would find the courage to move to Egypt, then the answer would have to be Yes.

Not sure I like being referred to as "these women" though. Makes me sound like some sort of lesser being - which I am not.

Luxorlover,

I read your posts on ES. Your eloquent style as a writer is quite captivating. Your honesty to yourself and others is rare and admiring, regardless of your life circumstances and choices.

Without judging but simply wanting to understand, I would like to ask you questions.

1. If I interpret right, your painful past experiences, knowledge that you did not have much time left to live, inadequate marriage situation, etc led you to try to restablish yourself in some kind of way and threw you to find love in the man who did not deserve a bit of it but he could give you some temporary assurance of your own belief in yourself, feeling of youthful exuberancy and joy which turned out to be an illusion (?). Was the love of a man only way to deal with adverse circumstances? Was Egypt the only solution to realize that you can do a lot in your life? Were there any other ways to rebuild your courage and strength? If yes, there are and were other ways, would you still say this man was worth the experience and moreover to do the same thing again?

2. You strike me as a very intellectual person. As an intellectual person myself (or at least I think that way), I honestly would be bored with someone who is only all about looks very quickly. Inside should be beautiful. Of all qualities of that guy, you only mentioned his physical statue rather than any other positive personality features. Did they exist? Was it just his physical appeal that struck you? How come was it enough for such a long time, 4 years you said? He made quite deregotory remarks about the way he opens women's purses. Would not that be disgusting enough to throw the man out so he lands heavily on his slim hips and have bruises on his tight ass so he cannot do his gigolo rendevours for some time? I am not suggesting beating. it is more in fugarative terms. Woud not this fact alone be simply insulting to be abused/used? Would not that be disgusting to be with a person who is such a hypocrat and such a prime example of the double standard? and moreover he is a thief and criminal literally. Why is this a positive lesson more than you understood what led you to such situation?

Sorry, I hope it is not harsh. Sincerely, KAT

P.S. I do not really like "pretty" men not beause I do not think the man should not be prettier than me (that cannot happen, I am a goddess anyway, so.. kidding :roll: )... but I'd say those who spend way too much time on their looks, are not accomplished enough in my opinion, and thus I am not interested in. That would be one dimension I would look first before looks for sure! What have you done wit your life? What are your goals? how do you achieve those? how do you take responsibility for your choices? how do you deal with difficulties? Do you blame others or do you try like a a frog in a bowl full of milk turning it to butter instead of drowning in self-pity and pessimism? it would be very hard for a man to tell me there is a dead end in his life. I have seen that myself and chose to fight for a brighter future not by catching a man with a fat wallet, but getting education and fullfilling my dreams even if it meant travleing thousands miles. I did it and not even daddy was there to bail me out. So if a young girl can do it, why cannot a "broadish" shouldered man do the same? no excuse. The same applies to those who come from rich families. the question is WHAT HAVE YOU DONE YOURSELF? What is your accomplishment besides things you daddy provided for you? Please, no pedigree and blue blood arguments. Bottomline what's your achievement?

I cannot imagine taking a motherly role in a relationship and put someone on his feet that i think he should stand on without me and before I meet him, regardless of his income. I would stand behind and insipre, encourage, and support but the drive cannot be given on a golden platter.

I do not believe you can change a person. If you can, it is a very long process conditional on absolute willingness to recognize flaws on his own and strong desire to change. There will be multiple attempts and failtures before this change can occur. If these flaws are absolutely horrific, why even bother? Sorry, Luxorlover, I digressed here. talking to myself :lol:

Katrina · Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 991 Location: USA

Jaguar wrote: YA3

Excuse me, elder, :lol: but what was that?

Katrina · Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 991 Location: USA

bitsy wrote: Raymond,

Do Egyptian men look so strong? No wonder why many women fall for them..

I love the pics ... more more please ...

oh, come one, they are sissies...Do I look good in my little yellow pampers? :lol: :lol: :lol:

El Kadafi · Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 131

Falling in love with a gigolo is like falling in love with a b***h. Just remember ladies and gentlemen that a part of you IS what or whoever you fall in love with.

Don't moderate the truth.

Monica · Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 4933 Location: Egypt

Your comment is raw... but you are entitled to your raw opinion too...
It could be offensive to Luxorlover..but she chose to go public, I respect her courage.

Your comments are aggressive and sometimes a bit shocking to some...but you are Egyptian and it's important that all types of Egyptians be known to foreigners, not only one type.

El Kadafi wrote: Falling in love with a gigolo is like falling in love with a b***h. Just remember ladies and gentlemen that a part of you IS what or whoever you fall in love with.

Don't moderate the truth.

El Kadafi · Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 131

I do not resort to subliminal comments, nor do I have anything to hide.

Monica wrote: but you are Egyptian and it's important that all types of Egyptians be known to foreigners, not only one type.

Types hmmmmmmm I would say I'm somewhere in between :smt033 and :smt070 and :smt098 and :-({|=

But seriously I was not even thinking of luxorlover when I wrote that post.

Katrina · Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 991 Location: USA

El Kadafi wrote: Falling in love with a gigolo is like falling in love with a b***h. Just remember ladies and gentlemen that a part of you IS what or whoever you fall in love with.

Don't moderate the truth.

El Kadafi,

First, no need to insult people here. Secondly and most importantly, are you having a monologue? I would have never brought it up if you did not try to insult Luxorlover. Isnt't your own statement indeed true in your own case?

here is your angelic portrait and absolutely stinking double rotten nature in your own words on ES:

El Kadafi
Member
Posts: 31
Registered: May 2004
posted 27 May 2004 07:32 PM
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Models are b****es, you use them and then throw them away. It's not strange for them at all, just enjoy whatever you've always enjoyed about her.
[This message has been edited by El Kadafi (edited 27 May 2004).]

Yes, surely, MOnica, do not moderate the truth. Finally, he spoke of his own colors himself. What a confession! Awesome self-catch

El Kadafi · Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 131

Quote: El Kadafi,

First, no need to insult people here. Secondly and most importantly, are you having a monologue? I would have never brought it up if you did not try to insult Luxorlover. Isnt't your own statement indeed true in your own case?

here is your angelic portrait and absolutely stinking double rotten nature in your own words on ES:

El Kadafi
Member
Posts: 31
Registered: May 2004
posted 27 May 2004 07:32 PM
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Models are b****es, you use them and then throw them away. It's not strange for them at all, just enjoy whatever you've always enjoyed about her.
[This message has been edited by El Kadafi (edited 27 May 2004).]

Yes, surely, MOnica, do not moderate the truth. Finally, he spoke of his own colors himself. What a confession! Awesome self-catch

I need to reiterate that Luxorlover was not even in my mind when I wrote that post (why you found offensive I know not).

That other reply of mine was to a post which discussed a model admitting to starring in a porno film. The poster of the topic seemed shocked that she would do such a thing. I merely stated that for models it's nothing strange, and that he should just enjoy whatever qualities he enjoyed about the woman in the first place. "Using her and throwing away" refers to renting her movies, buying her posters, and what not. They all show off her physical qualities anyways, which to me results in the "use" of a woman, not sex as you are probably thinking. People who are known for merely physical qualities tempting to the most basic human instinct are only temporary, they go and come.

I would have expected anyone else to accuse me of flaunting my crazy remarks, not hiding them. If you think I have been trying to hide a part of my character from anyone, I apologize, I shall be more upfront and blatant in my remarks from now on. Good day.