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moll



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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:11 pm    Post subject: Self delusion  

As you may know, I am sitting here knitting baby hats

So I was flicking around the TV channels and I came across the Best and Worst auditions for the X Factor, and all I can say is oh dear oh dear oh dear.....

How can people be SO self delusional, strutting into the audition telling the judges they've got the best voice EVER when they can't sing a note? it was quite sad, only it was funny too :mrgreen:

But I myself have a lovely voice :smt034

Anyway, that was my little knitting break, back to the needles now.......
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Hedgehog



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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:46 am    Post subject: Re: Self delusion  

moll wrote: As you may know, I am sitting here knitting baby hats

So I was flicking around the TV channels and I came across the Best and Worst auditions for the X Factor, and all I can say is oh dear oh dear oh dear.....

How can people be SO self delusional, strutting into the audition telling the judges they've got the best voice EVER when they can't sing a note? it was quite sad, only it was funny too :mrgreen:

But I myself have a lovely voice :smt034

Anyway, that was my little knitting break, back to the needles now.......

Moll...I have often wondered the same my self.....but from real life. I have come across so many people that are SOOOOO delusional/confident in themselves it is frightening. When they go for jobs, the way they look, act......they just think thenselves WONDERFUL....how did they ever get to that position...
If any thing I prefer to be the other way....so much so that I have been told I don't SELL myself enough..
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Ricky



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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Self delusion  

Hedgehog wrote: moll wrote: As you may know, I am sitting here knitting baby hats

So I was flicking around the TV channels and I came across the Best and Worst auditions for the X Factor, and all I can say is oh dear oh dear oh dear.....

How can people be SO self delusional, strutting into the audition telling the judges they've got the best voice EVER when they can't sing a note? it was quite sad, only it was funny too :mrgreen:

But I myself have a lovely voice :smt034

Anyway, that was my little knitting break, back to the needles now.......

Moll...I have often wondered the same my self.....but from real life. I have come across so many people that are SOOOOO delusional/confident in themselves it is frightening. When they go for jobs, the way they look, act......they just think thenselves WONDERFUL....how did they ever get to that position...
If any thing I prefer to be the other way....so much so that I have been told I don't SELL myself enough..

but this is how you do get things in a competitive world... 8)
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RoughShod



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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:04 pm    Post subject:  

Deception is the way to the fortune 500 Ricks? Quite likely !
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Ricky



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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:14 pm    Post subject:  

RoughShod wrote: Deception is the way to the fortune 500 Ricks? Quite likely !
why to use such strong vocab? how about "strategically planned out but market moved"? :lol:
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RoughShod



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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:19 pm    Post subject:  

How about chess, but we play for money.(not in the spirit of a game, but in the spirit that if you lose, you forfeit your financial life)
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moll



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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Self delusion  

Ricky wrote:
but this is how you do get things in a competitive world... 8)

Ricky, I'm not talking about being competitive or selling yourself, I'm talking about people who aren't hmmmm, how can I put this :-k not right in the head LOL

Just watched it again while I knocked out another baby hat and SERIOUSLY, they are not right in the head.....

I don't know if that's why the producers chose them out of 150.000 people, if it was then that was a bit mean

but it was really quite funny too :oops:

They're just deluded about being able to sing, and that's Ok I'm probably deluded about a lot of things too :cry: but it's the way they really, REALLY think they've got it and they go in to the audition telling everybody how great they are, and they don't want to be one hit wonders :lol: :lol: :lol:
I know you've got to believe in yourself to get anywhere, but ooooh dear........then they argue with the judges and tell them they'll be sorry when they're famous :smt043

Anyway, hedgy 8) I think we're just products of an old fashioned traditional Scottish upbringing, where any signs of 'showing off' are squashed pretty fast and if you're good at something, you're just supposed to keep it to yourself because nobody likes a showoff, and maybe that's just as bad and just as unrealistic, in the opposite way....it's getting the middle ground that's a bit tricky :(
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Harrison



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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:47 am    Post subject:  

I think you hit the nail on the head there Moll when you said it was the Scottish upbringing. If I had a £ for every time I heard, 'little girls should be seen and not heard' I wouldn't ever have to work again.

I crocheted a tea cosy while watching Lost last night. I will probably crochet a pair of stockings for winter tonight. I think the blue cotton I have will look rather fetching.

Good to see you back Hedgehog. :)
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Hedgehog



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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:29 pm    Post subject:  

but this is how you do get things in a competitive world...

Yes...you can learn to sell yourself....but I have watched many people who projected them selves as being great, right for the job, dynamic.....etc etc...only to fall face down in the S--T.

If I had a pound for each one I have watched fall down I would be RICH RICH RICH

Best to stay middle of the road, and not tell lies about how wonderful you are....someone is always there to watch you fall...and believe me however self delusional or competitive one is ...in the end you will stumble.

Read it every day in the news papers and news

Yes, Moll and Harrison it may well go back to our Scotish up bringing, but how ever we felt about it, we/I am much wiser for it :wink:
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moll



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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:49 pm    Post subject:  

Hedgehog wrote:
Yes, Moll and Harrison it may well go back to our Scotish up bringing, but how ever we felt about it, we/I am much wiser for it :wink:

I don't know, hedgy........sometimes I wish I'd been brought up to be a BIT more able to sell myself, thank GOD I'm not in a competitive market in my work :( but I suppose if the only way to get on was to learn to sell yourself, you'd just have to learn to do it.......

But it makes you wonder what you've done to your own kids, when you realise how the way you were brought up has shaped you into the person you are now.

Anyway.......last night on the Best and Worst auditions, there was a girl who had an OK singing voice for a choir or something, she wasn't THAT bad but no way did she have the 'X' factor, her voice was pretty ordinary but she thought it was pretty special :roll: so after the judges had given her a NO, the girl's father came in all ready to give them a doing for rejecting her :shock: but Simon Cowell told him straight that her problem was her parents, for encouraging her to think she really had talent...had to agree with him there.
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moll



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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:49 pm    Post subject:  

Well...........I have finally seen the appeal of programmes like The X Factor 8)

I've never watched it until now, but now I understand why so many people get hooked on it, it's all about people and I've just laughed :smt043 and cried :smt089

All the people who think they've got it, but they haven't and they're so devastated when they're told they haven't got it :smt089 all the people who KNOW they haven't got it, but they're just there to take the **** out of themselves........all the people who HAVE got it, and they're so overwhelmed to receive confirmation that they've got it, that's quite emotional :smt022 and all the different ways of handling rejection........I love it :P
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moll



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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:52 pm    Post subject:  

But I do not know what the judges are thinking about, putting 14 and 15 year olds through to the next round........far too much pressure at that age, if you ask me :-k
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