Your Egypt

[poppy]

moll wrote: poppy wrote:


I wore a black top with tiny, shimmering diamonds scattered across the front, from England and lovely, casual denims with a flower motiff on one leg, again from Beniton's Egypt. I topped off this comfortable ensemble with a formal black jacket from Europe. My hair, which is now shoulder length, was swept up in a French pleat, held in place by a pink slide, from Cairo. I feel good with my hair up. It stems from my childhood, my Mother would always put my hair in a pony tail when we were going out somewhere nice or on a special trip. So putting my hair up, magically gives me unbound energy for anything!


I quite enjoyed the girly talk, poppy 8)

I am wearing a red shirt (trying to get away from black, I can look like the living dead when I wear black if I'm not careful because I've got such fair skin and blonde hair :cry: ) and black trousers here...

I think the only thing our brothers have in common is, they're 10 years older...my brother is one of those really GOOD, really nice men who's never harmed a living thing, doesn't smoke, doesn't drink, no bad language EVER :oops:

but he's quite boring really

He blethers on about his work and the church and his garden and the grandchildren and people I've never met, we don't really have a lot in common :cry: and his wife is one of those know-all kind of people......

But I'm wondering :-k do you think what's happened with him, has coloured your views of Montreal and Canada? if things with him had been different, would you have a more positive view of it?


Me too I love to talk about fashion details and accessories! :P
Well yes, they are both 10 years older AND until recently BOTH had partners who are/were a pain in the butt! This is what I was referring to (also) Moll.

Mine too is pretty boring, a recently retired Journalist, who just happens to be an atheist also! Well, with regard to whether or not my rejection by him has affected my outlook of Montreal. Quite honestly, North America would have been last on my list of most popular places to visit. So, I DON'T think I would be here, without his INVITE. BUT, as I say I have just finished TESOL and graduated as an ESL Teacher here. SO, believe it was supposed to be (my coming here). For that reason alone, as God works in mysterious ways! :wink:

The weather is mild today but humid, I'm wearing an Egyptian bought pink nightgown and lilac slippers and taking some much deserved time out AND its weekend tomorrow hamdullah for that! I bet you look good in red Moll, it suits us blondes...... :lol:

I just got a call from my friend here, who has a job for me. I'm waiting for the confirmation call from his boss. Wish me luck...
I have a mixture of friends and aquiantences in Montreal, and with some of them, we swapped emails and may keep in touch.

They are Irish/Canadian, Italian/Canadian, Russian, half Egyptian/half Moroccan. Its like London, England in this way, pretty cosmopolitan.

[RoughShod]

Moll, you know what, I will tell you. In the last week I have thought to myself that YE actually has not been helping me at all. I get myself into trouble, sometimes I seem to help ppl through their trouble....but you know what, I always seem to to depend on what ppl think of me here. But they can never help me through my own troubles.

So I am no longer going to post here again until I see hope arising from the ashes of ppl's dreams.

Moll....I am no longer going to entertain what others wish for....I am only going to entertain what they have gained...not by sex or vice, but by their genuine happinness.

I doubt I will post here soon

[poppy]

moll wrote: SeaBird wrote:


A charming looking Lady yu should be as I immagine yu in those outfits.



I DID look quite charming, if I say so myself :mrgreen:

This is why I've missed your posts, SeaBird

I know that for many Egyptians (or at least, the ones we know in Luxor) going to the opera, dining in 5* restaurants :mrgreen: and your lifestyle, isn't typical, they're just too busy trying to make ends meet and feed their families. So when I read your stories about where you've been with your DW and the way you live, it reminds me that there's another side of Egypt, that it's quite cosmopolitan in some ways and that not EVERYBODY'S struggling, maybe it just kind of rounds it out for me and gives me the bigger picture of the country as a whole.

And I like all the details you give, it gives me a little picture in my head....I've really missed having some Egyptian input here :cry:


AND I second this opinion! When S.B. writes about his life in Egypt here. I read it and I feel I'm THERE already! :D

[poppy]

RoughShod wrote: Moll, you know what, I will tell you. In the last week I have thought to myself that YE actually has not been helping me at all. I get myself into trouble, sometimes I seem to help ppl through their trouble....but you know what, I always seem to to depend on what ppl think of me here. But they can never help me through my own troubles.

So I am no longer going to post here again until I see hope arising from the ashes of ppl's dreams.

Moll....I am no longer going to entertain what others wish for....I am only going to entertain what they have gained...not by sex or vice, but by their genuine happinness.

I doubt I will post here soon

It will be a shame if you stop posting R.S. AND I know I'm not the only person here who will think so! :wink:

If you wish to see HOPE arising from the ashes of the dreams of others here. My current situation is surely,a perfect example? :)

Despite things NOT being ideal or turning out as I expected. Against all odds, here In Montreal. I did NOT dwell on my misfortune, instead I got out there and qualified as an ESL Teacher! :D

As for not being able to help you through your troubles. Well I sincerely hope that, by posting and feedback here. It does help you in some small way. As it seems to help me.....

And I thank everyone here for their kind and encouraging words.
I for one, hope that you continue to post for a long time to come! :)

[moll]

RoughShod wrote: Moll, you know what, I will tell you. In the last week I have thought to myself that YE actually has not been helping me at all. I get myself into trouble, sometimes I seem to help ppl through their trouble....but you know what, I always seem to to depend on what ppl think of me here. But they can never help me through my own troubles.

So I am no longer going to post here again until I see hope arising from the ashes of ppl's dreams.

Moll....I am no longer going to entertain what others wish for....I am only going to entertain what they have gained...not by sex or vice, but by their genuine happinness.

I doubt I will post here soon

Well, you know something, Roughshod..........I understand how you feel. In many ways I feel the same, I often feel like I'm just posting here to be some sort of laughing stock/entertainment value for other people and that it has a negative effect on my self esteem in the long run....because like any other human being on the planet who's honest enough to admit it, I seek approval wherever I interact with other people whether it's online or in real life.

For what it's worth........I know I have sometimes taken the p*ss out of you for your posts :P but what I've responded to, has been your honesty about your confusion, your seeking to understand what life's about, your openness about yourself, your willingness to admit that you're not perfect like some people online try so hard to be.....I can identify with that and respect you for it, even if sometimes I've taken some offence at the way you've put it.

You've said it often, honesty is what matters, and you've been honest in your posts here without hiding it and pretending to know it all or be someone you're not......so (as I say to my class) give yourself a BIG pat on the back....

(and they really do it too)

Go on, Roughshod........give yourself a really big pat on the back, I'd do it for you only I'm not in SA :cry: although sometimes I've felt like giving you a big smack, you know :evil:

And that's just being honest :wink:

[moll]

poppy wrote:

I'm wearing an Egyptian bought pink nightgown



that's quite spooky, poppy :shock: I'm blonde and I'm wearing my pink jammies :shock:

[poppy]

moll wrote: poppy wrote:

I'm wearing an Egyptian bought pink nightgown



that's quite spooky, poppy :shock: I'm blonde and I'm wearing my pink jammies :shock:

Really??? :shock: What time is it with you now? I'm having a very lazy day and trying hard NOT to feel guilty about being so unproductive :roll:

I packed away most of my things (in preparation to leave Montreal in Sept) ALREADY! Can you believe that? BUT, there's method in my madness. I AM considering another home move too, before I go. SO, my best jammies are at the bottom of one of my suitcases, somewhere .... :roll:

FROM your sister in the pink lol :lol:

[SeaBird]

Sep 5, 2007

A couple of weeks ago I was visiting Turky as a Tourist. I am Egyptian man with Turkish grandfather. A Turkish Tourist guide provided quite impressive info about the both the History of Turky and its current fast-paced development. I recall she said: I know "they" tell you in Egypt negative things about our Secular system. I forgot to ask her: Who are "they"?. Never mind this triviality.

Yesterday evening, Turkey was the topic of the most famous Sattelite TV program in both Egypt nand the Arab World, the talk show program: "Cairo Today". I was able to know from the guest speaker (Prof Dr Mohamed Selim El Awaa) that Turky has jumped to the 20th Top World Economy after long history of being close to the tail of the list. 5 years with the Political party of Justice & Development in the governing offices of Turky made that miracle(2002-2007), the speaker said. The foreign investment jumped from 1.7 B $ to 20 B $,he added.

My Question: How comes that tourist guide that never verbalized the name of the Justice & Development party (seemed allergic towards its Islamic roots) informed us that the real value of the Turkish Lyra is 1.7 US Dollar not 1.3 as you think?! She said she doesn't know How the government make up for that difference?!

Is she right in her doubts of the present Turkish advancement towards getting into a respectful economy? meaning, it could be a false development that is vulnerable to collapse?!
I sincerely wish to see Turkey as a powerful nation, economically, in an era that the weak can have No Mercy to live longer.

On that TV program, the host asked his guest: Could the Moslem Brotherhood establishment in Egypt repeat the Turkish miracle if allowed to take the Government offices? meaning he was comparing. the guest's answer: I don't think so.

To be Continued
Stay with us

[SeaBird]

The host said: I was afraid if this topic is too serious to receive the attention of our viewers but we have been showered with plenty of phone calls to comment on the Turkish economic miracle.
Prof M. S. ElAwaa informed us that 2 main schools of Islamic Sophism prevailed in the secular Turky: Shiekh Norassy's and Shiekh Nakshabandy's school. Most of the Turks have Islam deeply rooted inside them
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BytheWay, when I told my Dear Wife I have been writing in an American Forum about the Turkish economic miracle, she warned me:
Stop attracting the attention of America towards Turky, your posts that Turky gonna be one of the advanced nations might bring the destructive American War Machine into Turky. A Pre-Empetive Strike from America may be so soon to slow down the growth of the Turkish Economy!!!!
To that extent America has been a Nightmare for the MidEastern Populations, a killing poison that one should avoid, I ask myself.


Answers to my Question:

1. AKP is a liberal pary. In fact, I believe that its Islamic reference is exaggerated or overestimated.

2. AKP's economic prescriptions are very similar of the IMF, World Bank, or other respective manipulation tools of the Western economies.

3. Turkish Lira (TL) is overvalued due to high interest rates applicable in Turkey. By listing such high interest rates, AKP stimulates the short term funds flowing into Turkey. By maintaining an over valued TL, it stimulated consumption and imports.

4. Most importantly, AKP passes laws and regulations attracting the global capitalist circles to invest in Turkey. So far, such policy only attracted investors who were/are interested in buying existing factories, banks, public firms and so on.

5. Inevitably, the inflow of such fictitious capital from Western countries to Turkey would come to its end in the forthcoming years in line with the decline of the Western economies (particularly the USA), and Turkey might pay another price (such as high unemployment rates and some bankrupt firms) for complying with the overall intentions of the Western Capitalism.

In fact many exporting textile firms have gone bankrupt and had to close down because of the fact that TL is overvalued. Production costs rise but the exchange rates for & or euro remains the same or even drops.The AKP purposefully maintains this exchange rate low to pay for foreign debts with less currency.
These policies stimulate imports and consumption, not good for Turkey.

Volga Bolgar wrote.

To be Continued
Stay with us

[poppy]

SeaBird wrote: Sep 5, 2007

I am Egyptian man with Turkish grandfather.

I sincerely wish to see Turkey as a powerful nation, economically, in an era that the weak can have No Mercy to live longer.


Stay with us

S.B. That was an interesting and informative post! And about your Turkish heritage and ancestor too!

I have read that Turkey are campaigning to enter the E.U. But, that it may take them another decade to be accepted. I wish them luck with this venture.

I found something about this here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3719052.stm

[SeaBird]

poppy wrote: SeaBird wrote: Sep 5, 2007

I am Egyptian man with Turkish grandfather.

I sincerely wish to see Turkey as a powerful nation, economically, in an era that the weak can have No Mercy to live longer.


Stay with us

S.B. That was an interesting and informative post! And about your Turkish heritage and ancestor too!

I have read that Turkey are campaigning to enter the E.U. But, that it may take them another decade to be accepted. I wish them luck with this venture.

I found something about this here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3719052.stm

Hi Poppy

I know that in a short visit, one can not/should not set conclusive considerations according to his/her observations.
So, I think this will need confirmation:

I was surprised to see that even Istanbul, a big city as well as sea port, has very limited acceptance to verse in English! In most of the places that I visited, in most of the touristic posts/bus terminals/sea ferry's terminals, when I talked in English they looked for someone who can reply in English, mostly None.

There is a large-numbered Turkish community in Germany. a fact.
Are the Turks in a sort of intellectual bonds with Germany?

That evening in the Alex Opera House, after the Turkish concert, I was standing in the Exit corridor waiting for DW to get out of the ret room while enjoying myself watching the Beauty of the Egyptian Ladies in its most pleasing scenes,
A foreign Lady came to me asking me in German bout something.
I appologized in English that I don't speak German,
she left me and said same question to what seems as a Turkish diplomat and he answered her in German!

Poppy
if yu have time to search about that German-Turkish closeness, I can't call it affection, but may be Preference, likeness,
Pls, let me know yr findings.

[poppy]

SeaBird wrote: poppy wrote: SeaBird wrote: Sep 5, 2007

I am Egyptian man with Turkish grandfather.

I sincerely wish to see Turkey as a powerful nation, economically, in an era that the weak can have No Mercy to live longer.


Stay with us

S.B. That was an interesting and informative post! And about your Turkish heritage and ancestor too!

I have read that Turkey are campaigning to enter the E.U. But, that it may take them another decade to be accepted. I wish them luck with this venture.

I found something about this here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3719052.stm

Hi Poppy

I know that in a short visit, one can not/should not set conclusive considerations according to his/her observations.
So, I think this will need confirmation:

I was surprised to see that even Istanbul, a big city as well as sea port, has very limited acceptance to verse in English! In most of the places that I visited, in most of the touristic posts/bus terminals/sea ferry's terminals, when I talked in English they looked for someone who can reply in English, mostly None.

There is a large-numbered Turkish community in Germany. a fact.
Are the Turks in a sort of intellectual bonds with Germany?

That evening in the Alex Opera House, after the Turkish concert, I was standing in the Exit corridor waiting for DW to get out of the ret room while enjoying myself watching the Beauty of the Egyptian Ladies in its most pleasing scenes,
A foreign Lady came to me asking me in German bout something.
I appologized in English that I don't speak German,
she left me and said same question to what seems as a Turkish diplomat and he answered her in German!

Poppy
if yu have time to search about that German-Turkish closeness, I can't call it affection, but may be Preference, likeness,
Pls, let me know yr findings.


Hello S.B. I didn't know about the close relations of Turkey and Germany, and am now curious myself from your post. Here's what I found:

http://www.meepas.com/Turkeydiplomaticrelationswitheuropeanunion.htm

Here it confirms what you said and that 2.5 million Turks already live in Germany, and 600,000 have already become citizens there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey-Germany_relations

And apparently, Turkish-German relations have their beginnings in the times of the Ottoman Empire and have culminated in the development of strong bonds with many façades that include economic, military, cultural and social relations.

And that once Turkey DOES join the EU, Turkey and Germany will be the two biggest member states. For this REASON, Germany is the AXIS for their interest and desire to join the EU. So in this way, for Turkey it is a useful liaison.

So, this union will remain a close one and is one of political reciprocity, in terms of economic and diplomatic. Which you have written about above.

Thanks for that S.B. very stimulating reading and research! :wink:

Ma salaam :)

poppy.

[RoughShod]

I found it interesting too, though no idea why a turkish relationship with germany should surprise me since I think they just cut throat villians too.

who? germany or turkish...hey, take your pick


I would side with germany rather, they much more able to start a war machine