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Adoula · Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 3591

Yes, you read that right. A cleric from the Egyptian university Al-Azhar has been fired over a controversial fatwa that allowed breastfeeding between unrelated adults in order to deal with Islamic social rules forbidding the mixing of unrelated men and women.

Adoula · Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 3591

Someone should draw a red line to those Muftis

Adoula · Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 3591

Saudi mobile phone company Mobily has barred users from text message voting in the pan-Arab version of Star Academy, after an earlier religious edict deemed the show immoral. The program is carried by the Lebanese channel LBC and was very popular in its first two seasons. [Source: Reuters]

Adoula · Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 3591

Last month they detained him. Yesterday, Saudi religious scholars have condemned an Arab television “Star Academy” competition as a crime against Islam and urged the Saudi Arabian pop singer who triumphed last month to repent. More than 60 sheikhs rounded on the fresh-faced Hisham Abdulrahman, whose victory in the Star Academy reality show triggered the closest thing to pop hysteria seen in the ultra-conservative Muslim kingdom. In a statement posted on the Saudi news Web site Al-Wifaq (www.al-wifaq.net), they also criticized the “depraved” Lebanese television station which broadcast the show.

Hedgehog · Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 5171 Location: UK

Why dose Islam have to have so MANY rules?.............

It would appear it wants to control every thing it's followers do......OMG

Ricky · Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 1430 Location: OVERSEAS ;)

Hedgehog wrote: Why dose Islam have to have so MANY rules?.............

It would appear it wants to control every thing it's followers do......OMG

no kidding :shock: :shock: :shock: :roll:

These clerics probably have a rule to poke somebody's nose with what finger :shock: instead of minding their own business and let it be more of a soul searching exercise between individuals and god, if they believe in God

Hedgehog · Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 5171 Location: UK

Ricky wrote: Hedgehog wrote: Why dose Islam have to have so MANY rules?.............

It would appear it wants to control every thing it's followers do......OMG

no kidding :shock: :shock: :shock: :roll:

These clerics probably have a rule to poke somebody's nose with what finger :shock: instead of minding their own business and let it be more of a soul searching exercise between individuals and god, if they believe in God

Ricky ...if you could just witness what I have...this is no under statement.....

Ricky · Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 1430 Location: OVERSEAS ;)

Hedgehog wrote: Ricky wrote: Hedgehog wrote: Why dose Islam have to have so MANY rules?.............

It would appear it wants to control every thing it's followers do......OMG

no kidding :shock: :shock: :shock: :roll:

These clerics probably have a rule to poke somebody's nose with what finger :shock: instead of minding their own business and let it be more of a soul searching exercise between individuals and god, if they believe in God

Ricky ...if you could just witness what I have...this is no under statement.....

You mean my joke is not a joke. There are such rules as to nitty gritty insane details as I illustrated? :shock: :shock: Serious? :idea: :!:

Adoula · Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 3591

Hedge,

At the time time of the prophet, women were riding hourses and going to the souks on their own, and now some religion clerk is trying 2 convince us she cant use the internet alone?

What kind of image we are giving to the whole world? Someone should draw a red line to those Muftis, this is not religion, this is pure personal stupidity!

I was happy to hear one of Al-Azhar Sheikh’s condemning such a fatwa (about women are forbidden to use the internet) and calling it ignorant.

In fact this Azhar Sheikh was carrying his Laptop and giving live fatwa’s on a TV show at one of the Egyptian TV shows. He was talking about the boost of internet in teaching and searching for Azhar, and in some of his answers, he was referring to online documents from Sharia.

Ricky · Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 1430 Location: OVERSEAS ;)

So how do these fatwas work? So what if this cleric issued a fatwa? Who cares actually to do what he says? The govt is not based on the islamic law. So what are the reprecussions to people who just ignore such idiots?

Hedgehog · Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 5171 Location: UK

Adoula wrote: Hedge,

At the time time of the prophet, women were riding hourses and going to the souks on their own, and now some religion clerk is trying 2 convince us she cant use the internet alone?

What kind of image we are giving to the whole world? Someone should draw a red line to those Muftis, this is not religion, this is pure personal stupidity!

I was happy to hear one of Al-Azhar Sheikh’s condemning such a fatwa (about women are forbidden to use the internet) and calling it ignorant.

In fact this Azhar Sheikh was carrying his Laptop and giving live fatwa’s on a TV show at one of the Egyptian TV shows. He was talking about the boost of internet in teaching and searching for Azhar, and in some of his answers, he was referring to online documents from Sharia.

It is about time they had 'teachers' who lived in the modern world....

I often say Mohamed should come back and shake them up.....bet he would move forward.......................

Ricky · Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 1430 Location: OVERSEAS ;)

When there is no punishment mechanism like prisons etc (meaning this is not something imposed by the totalitarian like former SU or religious government (such as Iran) and people just surrender their thinking process to these clerics and imams (whatever their titles are), there is something truly wrong right there. Just because people themselves have effective breaks in their minds, these clerics do flourish, prosper, and have effective power to influence people. So do not blame the clerics only, it is the people who are responsible too for their lack of their own thinking. It seems to me that sometimes even education does not help. Somehow horizons are not open but closed just as much. I am truly not an expert to speak on the Middle East. But it applies to all ultra religious folk and it seems that such peculiarities are kind of too peculiar in the MidEast

Hedgehog · Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 5171 Location: UK

And women too are not allowed to have horizons..... they just obey the men...... :evil: :evil: :evil:

Ricky · Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 1430 Location: OVERSEAS ;)

Any kind of horizons????? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

what are they allowed to have? Cook, clean :shock: Shoot, I wish I lived in that society and were a king 8) Joking...Wowso what happens if a woman disobeys the man? What are the examples of disobedience? So when girls are little they obey, then they marry, they obey, do they teach the same to their daughters and sons? Do they believe in this obedience themselves or they simply have not much choice?

how about the society Dr Seabird talks about and lives in? He seems to portray that women are out there reaching out for the stars and all 8) Careers, vacations, relatives, they seem to even allow their husbands to look at other women!?? :lol:

Hedgehog · Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 5171 Location: UK

There are some girls trying to follow a career and studying hard.

But most dream of getting married. That is their aim in life. To make sure someone will 'provide for them'

Then they follow the same trends their mothers did.....house work for most of the day. The woman above me washes her carpets as if she was washing her knickers.....why for gods sake. They buy the same furniture, kitchen ware you name it ...it will be the same as mummy had....

And they have the cheek to come into my house and say..'How western'....well I am not cleaning every day......better things in life to do